Interview with Kate Mosse, author of Labyrinth and Sepulchre
THE bloody history of medieval Carcassone was brought to life in the international best-selling book Labyrinth.
And now its author Kate Mosse takes us back to the south west with her latest book Sepulchre, a tale from the dark woods of the Corbières involving ghosts, murder and tarot cards.
Here I chat with Kate about the mystery of the region and her writing life - also find out how to win a copy of Sepulchre - and so my first question was what frights can people expect from the new book?
Sepulchre is part ghost story and part tarot tale, set in two different time periods, the 1890s in Paris and the south west of France and modern day Paris as well as the area around Rennes les Bains.
It is about a young girl and her brother in the 1890s who are sent to stay with their aunt in this creepy house in the woods and when they get there they discover a strange Sepulchre hidden in the ground and within there is hidden a pack of tarot cards.
Then 110 years later an American researcher who is down in the area comes across the ruined Sepulchre and realises the story of the tarot cards is all still going and that there are many secrets that have not yet been uncovered.
So it’s very much a page turning, read it with the door shut and the lights turned on type of book.
How frightening was it for you to work on the new book after the success of Labyrinth?
It was a bit intimidating, because it is a wonderful thing to have millions of readers of Labyrinth with many people kind enough to write, email or come to events to tell you how it is one of their favourite books, so you do feel this great sense of not letting people down and you want the next book to be as successful.
You want people to really enjoy it so that they won’t feel disappointed. So before I got down to writing I felt I very much had the shadow of Labyrinth over me, but once you start it’s the same as any piece of writing really, what you are thinking about is ‘does this chapter work, are these characters doing what I want them to do, is the story unravelling as I thought it would’.
So once you actually get going you forget about everything except writing one sentence after another.
It’s clear from both books that you love the history of the south west of France, so where did your research take you?
I haven’t visited anywhere because we’ve had a house in Carcassone for 18 years so that’s where we go, the problem with having a house is that you tend to only go there rather than travel around the place.
For some years I wanted to write about Rennes les Bains, not its famous neighbour Rennes les Chateau, out of which so many of the Holy Grail stories have come, but more because Rennes les Bains in the Pyrenees was this incredibly chic and thriving spa town in the 1890s and now it is this tiny, quiet, little village, that’s a very nice place.
But it was just so interesting to compare it to the pictures and reports of the place in the 1890s to the present day, so I had it in the back of my mind that I would like to write about there.
So Rennes les Bains, Couiza, Esperaza and Limoux are places we visit a lot when we are home in Carcassone, as it is a very different sort of atmosphere to the medieval past of the city, it is much more domestic, if you like, and it is more about the greenness of the mountains. And I very much like the woods around Rennes les Bains, I find it a very inspiring atmosphere to write about.
What do you “see” when you walk around Carcassone and the region, as I suppose the history must almost ooze out of the walls?
One of the things I was looking forward to writing about in this new book was to write about Carcassone in the 1890s when the town hall made a decision to be a tourist destination.
Because people most probably know about the present day and the medieval past, but it was a quite conscious decision, on the part of the town, to invent itself as a place for tourists and so the city was restored over a period of time to encourage tourists to come and visit.
So when I was researching for Labyrinth I thought that one day if I get the opportunity I would love to write about the 1890s moment, when the city became a place where people went.
And I thought that it is not just that the history is there but that it is a conscious, crucial part of the present of the region and is therefore maximised everywhere, so it is not a random thing if you like, that the history is so evident it is very much part of a plan to make it a place that people visited.
Do you see Labyrinth being used by the tourism industry in Carcassone, how do you feel about that?
I’m a bit mixed about it really, because on the one hand you are delighted as I spent years and years writing both books, so seeing people reading them is fantastic. When we were in Carcassone in the summer there was someone waiting to go into the Cateau Comtal holding a copy of Labyrinth who asked me if I’d read it. And I heard myself saying no.
So it feels like a public thing. I’m told by French friends in Carcassone that the French guides also use Labyrinth for describing things, I don’t know if that’s true or not.
But on the other hand one of the reasons behind writing Labyrinth, and now Sepulchre, was to say these are amazing places, so go and visit them for yourself. So it was a conscious way of trying to share my real love of the region.
Sepulchre is very much about the green Corbieres, very much about Limoux and the south and I do want people to go and find the amazing landscape and find out what a great place it is.
How different is a writing day in France compared to one in the UK? Do you undertake different projects in each country?
No, a lot of writers have one place where they can work, and are very set, but I’m not really like that. I have a tiny little laptop and find that I work just as well in my home in England as I do in Carcassone, the only thing that is common to both is that I start very early, carry on through the morning and a little after lunch, then I clock off.
And that is the same whether I am in Sussex or in Carcassone, I just work better in the early mornings. If I’m researching I have a different pattern but when I’m actually writing, I work for eight hours a day, seven days a week until it is done. Everybody knows that I disappear into this awful tunnel.
But I always write in my pyjamas, so I think a lot of people must think I am a long term invalid. I don’t think about it but the postman most probably thinks I’m ill.
Where does the love affair for France come from, would you have written the books if you’d not lived there?
No, well at least they would have been very different books. I had in my mind a series of novels that were part historical, part contemporary that used mythological items, or mystical items, such as Grail legend, or in this case tarot.
But I had thought Labyrinth would have been set in ancient Egypt actually, it was a consequence of buying the house in Carcassone, which came about by a series of random coincidences, it could have been anywhere, it just happened that my mother-in-law had a friend who was an estate agent, who had a twinning agreement with an agent in Carcassone.
And that is what is so terrifying, if she had a twinning somewhere else, who knows what would have happened.
But when I got to the region I just fell completely in love with it and felt it was the landscape of my imagination. So it’s not that I wouldn’t have written the novels, it is just that they would have been different books. Sepulchre would not have happened if we didn’t know Rennes les Bains, and Labyrinth wouldn’t have either if I hadn’t discovered Cathar history.
Are you looking to France as the background for future books?
I doubt if my next book will be set in France. I feel that as a novelist you have to keep some of the elements that you know your readers like, but not jus repeat the same thing over. So Sepulchre and Labyrinth were conceived as a pair, two different time periods, but the same sort of area.
But I suspect the next one will not be set in France, I think it would be good to have the challenge of writing in a different sort of landscape, so I think next time I am more likely to be writing about Egypt.
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